“He was just threatening to kill people,” Penny claimed in a preview of the interview, shared by Fox News on Tuesday, telling the network that’s what motivated him to come up from behind Neely and take him to the ground in a chokehold for several minutes. “I’m not a confrontational person,” Penny claims in the clip.

Daniel Penny sat down with Judge Jeanine Pirro for a powerful first interview since jurors found him not guilty in the subway chokehold death of Jordan Neely.