Gavin Newsom made headlines by inviting conservative activist Charlie Kirk to be the first guest on his new podcast, “This is Gavin Newsom.” Now Kirk is speaking out about the experience of sitting down to talk politics with his ideological opposite,

He added, "I will give him credit for having the discussion, they didn't edit it." But when it comes to any higher political ambitions the California governor might have for the White House, Kirk said the podcast is a misstep.

Three episodes into the California governor’s new podcast, Alex Conant, the Republican strategist who served as communications director on Marco Rubio’s 2016 presidential campaign, called Newsom a “skilled communicator” and a “very, very talented politician.”